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Interstellar exchange of massive objects is difficult across several light years. But as the stars orbit the galaxy the distances between them change. I don't find data for neighbor star distances which covers more than a couple of a hundred thousand years. I can imagine that it is difficult to trace their orbits further given todays uncertainties in distance measurements. But I'm interested in a purely statistical/geometrical estimation of how frequent nearby Sun-star passages have been.

  • How many times has a star come closer than, for example, 1 light year from the Sun since it formed?
  • How well mixed have the nearest stars become over time? What fraction of them have followed the Sun since formation and made multiple passages?

I suppose that 1 light year's distance is enough to cause disturbances in the Oort cloud and likely exhange comets.

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I was curious about the same things. I believe it was in the astronomy stack exchange I was referred to an online data base that gives position and velocity vectors for neighboring stars. From those I put together a spreadsheet. Here's a screen capture:

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I only entered 48 of the closest stars so it's by no mean an exhaustive list.

It looks like your graphic matches my estimates which is reassuring. I don't know why the Ross Stars aren't in my list, possibly the omission is an error on my part when I was entering data to the spreadsheet.

Looks like the closest approaches are around 3 lightyears.

If each star has an Oort cloud, I believe the comets' velocity with regard to our sun would be pretty close to the star's relative velocity. Slowest star wrt our solar system seems to be Gliese 729 which is moving ~14 km/s wrt the sun.

If, for example, some of Van Maanen's Oort cloud came within a light year of our sun, they would have been moving 270 km/s. Those snowballs would have zoomed in and out of our neighborhood.

With these distances and relative velocities I don't see much opportunity for swapping comets.

It's speculated that our sun swapped comets with neighboring stars when our solar system was being formed. From Wikipedia:

Recent research has been cited by NASA hypothesizing that a large number of Oort cloud objects are the product of an exchange of materials between the Sun and its sibling stars as they formed and drifted apart, and it is suggested that many—possibly the majority—of Oort cloud objects were not formed in close proximity to the Sun.

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On the scale of 0.0002 billion years, movements of stars near the Sun is available. And interaction with siblings since the beginnings of earthly time is only one part of the equation. The other part is how the Sun might have interacted with comets (or spaceships?) from unrelated much older or younger stars, during the 16 or so times the Sun has orbited the Milky Way like once every 0.25 billion years. How frequently should mass exchanging encounters have occured, is really my question. (Wiki's lack of dates makes terms like "recently" mean little in quickly developing fields of astronomy). –  LocalFluff Jun 2 at 15:03
    
But I think you argue that stars and their comets are most likely to have higher than capture velocity relative to the solarsystem? And for that reason they are unlikely to stick around. –  LocalFluff Jun 2 at 15:07
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That's my thinking. Even if perihleion were 1/2 a light year, 14 km/s Vinf would be a hyperbola of very high eccentricity -- the path would look like a straight line. That's how I modeled the paths -- as straight lines. –  HopDavid Jun 2 at 15:12
    
It's my understanding they get the stars' distance by Parallax -- which is much more error prone as the stars go further. Radial velocity is measured by blue shift. And then distance plus angular velocity are used to get the other velocity components. So estimates are more prone to error with more distant stars. –  HopDavid Jun 2 at 15:18
    
So distances don't say everything, it's the delta-v that matters for exchanging stuff like comets. It might as well be easier for a more distant star to happen to launch a comet our way that our Sun is more likely to trap. –  LocalFluff Jun 2 at 15:20

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