Timeline for In binary systems, does the speed of the objects vary as they adjust to the movement of the other object?
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| Dec 17, 2019 at 7:32 | comment | added | uhoh | Wiggles or oscillations happen in physical systems especially when you have a sudden transit or when there are restoring forces (simple case would be a pendulum) but in the example given there are none to produce wiggles. If you applied quantum mechanics instead of classical mechanics, you could define a matter wave or de Broglie wave for each object whether or not it was interacting with another, but that's a whole 'nuther ball of wax. | |
| Dec 17, 2019 at 7:29 | comment | added | uhoh | I think this is an interesting question, but it might not be suited to Astronomy SE only because it is about a more fundamental concept in physics, and not specifically about astronomy. I can get some of the idea here and if we were implementing the orbit in a simple computer simulation we might see something a little bit this if we chose a poorly written physics engine. But as far as it's known, this kind of wiggle doesn't happen because each object is continuously responding. | |
| Dec 15, 2019 at 9:32 | comment | added | ProfRob | The answer is no. | |
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| Dec 14, 2019 at 17:14 | answer | added | Slarty | timeline score: 1 | |
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| Dec 14, 2019 at 16:35 | comment | added | Kornelia | social cognition in humans reads people based on seeing that everything is always interrelated. look at politics and how well that works out. objectivity is better. if the answer to this question is a resounding No, then that is that. feel free to provide that No answer, I'm still open to that momentum + movement of other object causes some periodic adjustment pattern. | |
| Dec 14, 2019 at 16:34 | comment | added | Kornelia | they're not interrelated. they were different approaches. rather than chat room, if the movement of binary systems is smooth and not having, as I reasoned, from momentum and then adjusting to the other object moving, some periodicity, then the answer would be pretty much No and that is that. | |
| Dec 14, 2019 at 16:30 | comment | added | user21 | I invite you to join chat.stackexchange.com/rooms/102204/elliptical-orbits as I think it would be easier to answer your 4 interrelated questions there. I'm not at my computer 24/7, but I'm sure we'll be able to find some time when we are both available real-time. | |
| Dec 14, 2019 at 16:23 | comment | added | Kornelia | No I mean, literally, as each object has momentum and the other object moves, do they adjust to that in a smooth way, or are there periodic "tugs" that can be measured. | |
| Dec 14, 2019 at 16:14 | comment | added | user31179 | It is pretty easy, actually. Terms like "wobble" or "tug of war" or colloquial. Kepler's laws of orbital motion clarify speed differences of objects in elliptical orbits. In this case, the barycentre of charon and Pluto lies between them, but closer to Charon. As they orbit around the barycentre it may look like they "wobble". Wikipedia page on Charon has an animation. Do you mean that ? | |
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| Dec 14, 2019 at 15:42 | comment | added | Kornelia | As far as priorities go, I think this question comes pretty far down the list. So would guess it is pretty hard to find answer to, as models tend to generalize. | |
| Dec 14, 2019 at 15:39 | comment | added | user24157 | Have you read the Wikipedia article about elliptic orbits? Does it answer your question? | |
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