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I am a beginner, please pardon my non-use of proper astronomical terms. I would appreciate proper edits to my questions.

I have learned that when the $\frac{\mathrm{d}F}{\mathrm{d}r}$ is a very big negative number, that would mean that the far side will have much less gravitational tug than the near side of a satellite. The differential gravity or $\frac{\mathrm{d}F}{\mathrm{d}r}$ will be as follows

$$\frac{\mathrm{d}F}{\mathrm{d}r} = \frac{-2 GMm}{r^3}$$

If we compute $\frac{\mathrm{d}F}{\mathrm{d}r}$ of Earth-Moon system we get $-1.308 \times 10^{-5} \ \mathrm{M_o^2G/AU^3} $

I was surprised to know that Ganymede, being almost 3 times as far away from Jupiter as our Moon is from Earth, still is tidally locked.

If we compute $\frac{\mathrm{d}F}{\mathrm{d}r}$ of Jupiter-Ganymede system we get $-1.565 \times 10^{-6} \ \mathrm{M_o^2G/AU^3}$

I then wondered what is the $\frac{\mathrm{d}F}{\mathrm{d}r}$ of Sun-Earth that our Earth is not tidally locked to it and I found $-2.422 \times 10^{-8} \ \mathrm{M_o^2G/AU^3}$

Which is a very small negative number so the difference in tug is not significant.

So what is the minimum $\frac{\mathrm{d}F}{\mathrm{d}r}$ (or I guess "maximum") value or a boundary value at which the object can be tidally locked and beyond that, the tidal locking won't occur?

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    $\begingroup$ Try Sun-Venus. The sun appears to have slowed down Venus rotation significantly, though it's hard to get a reading on how fast Venus rotated in the past. The malleability of the surface and/or liquid or heavy atmosphere on the surface is also a factor, it's not just the tidal force but how much the planet bends/flows in response to the force. I don't think there's a clear cut answer as to where tidal locking stops either, because, as tidal force decreases, the time it takes for tidal locking to happen increases, so there's no neat and tidy cut-off, just a steady increase in time it takes $\endgroup$ – userLTK Jun 15 '16 at 3:14
  • $\begingroup$ @userLTK Thank you. I like your idea. Edited my question. $\endgroup$ – fahadash Jun 15 '16 at 10:47
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    $\begingroup$ I think it will largely depend on the material of the body rotating. In principle, a body composed of a fluid, whether gas or liquid, will respond to tidal forces, no matter how small -- it's just a question of whether the process has time to happen before something else interferes. If the body deforms elastically, that is without generating heat, it will never lock. $\endgroup$ – Sean Lake Oct 17 '16 at 16:05
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I can't comment here because I don't have enough reputation, but this is very related to your problem.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tidal_locking#Timescale

Tidal locking will always occur albeit potentially not in a Hubble time. In order for there to be no tidal locking, you would need:

$$\frac{\mathrm{d}F}{\mathrm{d}r} = 0$$

Which any extended object will not have. Problems like this always involve timescales and not definite yes/no answers. I hope this helped.

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  • $\begingroup$ Going by that logic, Is Earth tidally locked to Sun because it's not zero. $\endgroup$ – fahadash Oct 21 '16 at 13:54
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    $\begingroup$ No just because dF/dr > 0 doesn't mean that it currently is tidally locked, it just means that EVENTUALLY, possibly longer than the age of the universe, it will become tidally locked. Read the timescale section on that Wikipedia article. $\endgroup$ – Doug Oct 22 '16 at 1:15

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